There is no literary elite in this country, unless it’s the corporate elite that runs the book business. It’s a totally different situation. What I’d say we have here is an underground that exists perennially, a steady kind of thing, and out of this movements occasionally arise and subside, but it’s always there. Whereas in France, especially, you have this series of avant-gardes which are, actually, nothing more than the cutting edge of bourgeois culture.